Mark

When I first saw your character image my first impression was ‘well we won’t go there’. (Again, character assessment not talent. ) But the more I dig into your information and read your posts the more I grow to like you and understand why you are getting the buzz. Sometimes I think you go a bit overboard on the ‘I’m a cool guy routine’ but hey I get it, we are in the marketing game. Anyways, I say all this to say, you are a very sharp guy and I think you got a lot of character despite my first impression. I agree fully with being forthright with our current success. I am a newbie so I am right at that decision making point and I believe that every starting point has its own unique benefits. So why lie to my market, prospects, and customers? In my opinion it would only be a matter of time before I would slip and loose long term credibility. I do not think that me being a newbie will affect my ability to sell personally. Sometimes ‘us commoners’ can feel a bit disconnected from the gurus not knowing what secret agenda might be behind the scenes. Many of us newbies tend to have a higher trust level for those that have just broken the success barrier or one who is documenting their journey. (they feel that they are not alone and can relate). So why do not more us of ride this benefit until we are in a position to ethically be labeled as a guru? That is my thinking.

Anyways, hey man I expect to meet you one day I really do. I believe I will be one of the great ones in due time. Until then, thanks for the great information. I am now a loyal follower.

Mike

I quickly found these were good people willing to “help” others such as myself. Oh and there was a ton for me to be learned as well. Now, 7 months later after taking action I realize the fault in that plan.

I have some success in niche marketing but when you look at it as a vast whole there’s sooooooooooo much $$$$ in the make money online niche that that’s where you make the real money.

Personally I still have this blue-collar mentality that I’m quickly losing as I realize a real living can be earned online in niches. Yes, once I get a good enough income from it, I will earn the get money online niche but until then I will earn my lumps and go with it….

For me the term “Fake it ’till you make it” has two meanings..

The first is the one you just described and relates to manipulating the opinions of other people. Which is disgusting.

The second has a meaning of self. Faking something to yourself. Calling “the things that aren’t as though they are”. Stepping into who you want to be and pretending you’ve already attained it.

Just my thoughts.

- Scott

I was the “a viewer” who started this debate – its time to chime in…

“a viewer actually recommend that people fake their success until they’ve achieved some level of notoriety on the internet.”

WRONG WRONG WRONG (borrowed that one from you jm)

My advice doesn’t extend beyond the phrase:

“fake it UNTIL you make it”

My contention is that when entering a new market, you shouldn’t waste your time becoming an expert, since you don’t know if it will be worth your while. CV’s and Resumes are also perfect examples of faking it until you make it.

One word in there needs to be emphasized… “UNTIL”!!!

One of my quotes “If you can’t be outstanding, you may as well just stand out” – its a similar concept.

Anybody who suggests “fake it until you make it” isn’t good advice is idealistic at best, fake and ignorant at worst…

I love reading comments from the unsuccessful groupies who are offering the 2c they haven’t earned yet. Yes I agree – its shit that FIUYMA works – but it is down to earth, solid and proven advice.

Jason you pride yourself on telling it how it is – yet you won’t stand up and say “yup, I faked it.” – Your “down to earth” image is so important to you, that you are clashing opinions with the most successful people in the world.

Props to Ken for calling it how many many people see it. Personally I’ve got the insider scoop on the IM “Guru’s” and to be brutally honest, you would be better off saying “you know what, I did fake it for a while, but now I’ve got solid legs to stand on. I made it and the ‘until’ has come into effect”

Claiming to have never faked it, is fake in and of itself.

I will also contend that any internet marketer who is worth their chops, isn’t just marketing to internet marketers… most of them are, and personally I think that’s bordering on abusive. Hopefuls are being used by the “guru’s” – so many of whom are regurgitating crap they have never personally implemented. Others have been so successful selling to the IM niche, they have dropped all their non-im businesses and are just selling and reselling the same old material.

Is it worth raising the fact that I was banned from the ustream chat? Well yes it is, because at the end of the day Jason, you market yourself as a guy who “tells it how it is” yet you apparently don’t like it much when somebody is calling you out. Fair enough too, you speak about living in fear, is this first hand experience?

I know you are going to claim there was no banning – but there was. Be it the result of your own actions, or one of the other moderator, it happened. Enough said.

Now this isn’t personal and it would be a mistake to take it that way. I like you, I like your stuff, I just hate hypocrisy.

I faked it many times – I’ll admit that happily. ‘Until’ has kicked in for me, as it has for you.

Keep it real, and keep telling it how it is.

Much Love,

Vince Samios

But, as has been mentioned, faking success, or worse, faking knowledge, is both wrong and dangerous.

The problem I have always seemed to encounter is my own lack of willingness to fake it, which then translated into doing nothing at all to make it.

Fortunately, guys like Jason have shown that you don’t have to fake it to make it, you simply need to ACT, learn, and repeat.